From olejorgenb at yahoo.no  Fri Nov  6 19:15:45 2009
From: olejorgenb at yahoo.no (=?utf-8?Q?Ole_J=C3=B8rgen_Br=C3=B8nner?=)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:15:45 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] Open in background window broken
Message-ID: <op.u2zmfrw6vocxtk@tabole-debian>

Open in background window seems to be broken in opera 10.1 under gnome  
(not sure about other WMs (well in ion3 too).

The new window is opened in the background, but it grabs the focus.

I'm not sure if this is a new issue with opera 10.


- Ole J?rgen Br?nner

From landronimirc at gmail.com  Sat Nov 14 09:26:22 2009
From: landronimirc at gmail.com (Liviu Andronic)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:26:22 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] qt4 build freezes and 100% CPU
Message-ID: <68b1e2610911140126h3f92064eg52a4270835ffcba2@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all
For about a week now I am becoming disenchanted with Opera. I am using
the qt4 build on amd64 Debian testing. After upgrading to 10.01, I get
very often freezes when web pages finish downloading; when this
happens CPU goes to 100% (on gmail.com, amazon.com, etc.). I suspect
either flash or javascript to be at fault, but I really don't know.

Does anyone know what is wrong?
Liviu


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From kenny at panix.com  Sat Nov 14 11:01:13 2009
From: kenny at panix.com (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:01:13 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] qt4 build freezes and 100% CPU
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2009, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> Does anyone know what is wrong?

Run "ulimit -n" for me and tell me what it says. What I found out is that
unlike Qt 3 (which apparently has a file-descriptor limit of 1024) Qt 4
will go as high as 6144 open FDs, and if your file-descriptor limit (set
in /etc/security/limits.conf on Ubuntu distros) is lower than that, Qt4
Opera will spin at 100% CPU and act "funny" when it hits that lower limit.

I set mine to 8K hard, 6K soft for user "kenny" and all was well. (But I
ended up going back to Qt3 over minor issues like favicons disappearing).

	-Kenny

-- 
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From landronimirc at gmail.com  Sat Nov 14 11:52:33 2009
From: landronimirc at gmail.com (Liviu Andronic)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:52:33 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] qt4 build freezes and 100% CPU
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On 11/14/09, Kenneth Crudup <kenny at panix.com> wrote:
> Run "ulimit -n" for me and tell me what it says. What I found out is that
>
liviu at debian-liv:~$ ulimit -n
1024


>  unlike Qt 3 (which apparently has a file-descriptor limit of 1024) Qt 4
>  will go as high as 6144 open FDs, and if your file-descriptor limit (set
>  in /etc/security/limits.conf on Ubuntu distros) is lower than that, Qt4
>  Opera will spin at 100% CPU and act "funny" when it hits that lower limit.
>
I looked into  /etc/security/limits.conf here on Debian and all the
lines are commented out.


>  I set mine to 8K hard, 6K soft for user "kenny" and all was well. (But I
>  ended up going back to Qt3 over minor issues like favicons disappearing).
>
I am not very familiar with file-descriptor limits. Could you post the
lines that you have in limits.conf or the commands that you issued to
set up "appropriate" limits?

Thank you
Liviu

From eugene at raptor.kiev.ua  Sat Nov 14 13:41:05 2009
From: eugene at raptor.kiev.ua (Eugene Paskevich)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:41:05 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] qt4 build freezes and 100% CPU
In-Reply-To: <68b1e2610911140126h3f92064eg52a4270835ffcba2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68b1e2610911140126h3f92064eg52a4270835ffcba2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.u3dz96am2m4sxy@kite.raptor.kiev.ua>

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:26:09 +0200, Liviu Andronic  
<landronimirc at gmail.com> wrote:

> For about a week now I am becoming disenchanted with Opera. I am using
> the qt4 build on amd64 Debian testing. After upgrading to 10.01, I get
> very often freezes when web pages finish downloading; when this
> happens CPU goes to 100% (on gmail.com, amazon.com, etc.). I suspect
> either flash or javascript to be at fault, but I really don't know.
>
> Does anyone know what is wrong?

Which build exactly are you using?
Yes, I saw the same issue here both on i386 and amd64 qt4 builds.
But two latest builds don't exhibit it anymore.
So if it's not the latest build, I'd recommend upgrading.

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From landronimirc at gmail.com  Sat Nov 14 18:52:15 2009
From: landronimirc at gmail.com (Liviu Andronic)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:52:15 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] qt4 build freezes and 100% CPU
In-Reply-To: <op.u3dz96am2m4sxy@kite.raptor.kiev.ua>
References: <68b1e2610911140126h3f92064eg52a4270835ffcba2@mail.gmail.com> 
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On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Eugene Paskevich <eugene at raptor.kiev.ua> wrote:
> Which build exactly are you using?
>
Version
10.01

Build
4682

Platform
Linux

System
x86_64, 2.6.30-1-amd64

Qt library
4.5.3


> Yes, I saw the same issue here both on i386 and amd64 qt4 builds.
> But two latest builds don't exhibit it anymore.
> So if it's not the latest build, I'd recommend upgrading.
>
This seems to be the latest stable. I wouldn't want to go beta at the moment.
Liviu

From kenny at panix.com  Sat Nov 14 19:33:56 2009
From: kenny at panix.com (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:33:56 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] qt4 build freezes and 100% CPU
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> >  I set mine to 8K hard, 6K soft for user "kenny" and all was well.

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> I am not very familiar with file-descriptor limits. Could you post the
> lines that you have in limits.conf or the commands that you issued to
> set up "appropriate" limits?

Add these lines (changing your UID from "kenny", of course):

*		hard	nofile		8192
kenny		soft	nofile		6144

	-Kenny

-- 
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O: 3630 S. Sepulveda Blvd. #138, L.A., CA 90034-6809      (888) 454-8181

From eugene at raptor.kiev.ua  Sat Nov 14 19:41:06 2009
From: eugene at raptor.kiev.ua (Eugene Paskevich)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:41:06 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] qt4 build freezes and 100% CPU
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References: <68b1e2610911140126h3f92064eg52a4270835ffcba2@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:51:43 +0200, Liviu Andronic  
<landronimirc at gmail.com> wrote:

> This seems to be the latest stable. I wouldn't want to go beta at the  
> moment.

Well, there are two newer builds than that, 4694 and 4720.
None of them has the problem you described.
Build 4720 is an RC for 10.10 as Desktop Team blog states.
Further is up to you.

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From kenny at panix.com  Sat Nov 14 19:49:46 2009
From: kenny at panix.com (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:49:46 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] qt4 build freezes and 100% CPU
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> Add these lines (changing your UID from "kenny", of course):

> *		hard	nofile		8192
> kenny		soft	nofile		6144

Oh, and you'll have to log out (or even reboot) for them to take effect.

	-kenny

-- 
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O: 3630 S. Sepulveda Blvd. #138, L.A., CA 90034-6809      (888) 454-8181

From pedrogfrancisco at gmail.com  Sat Nov 14 21:56:39 2009
From: pedrogfrancisco at gmail.com (Pedro Francisco)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:56:39 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] Opera Qt4 & Twitter
Message-ID: <op.u3em72p6y41nas@sundae-v2>

Am I the only one seeing smaller fonts on Twitter (and on other sites)  
than they should be on Opera Qt4?


--
Pedro

From eugene at raptor.kiev.ua  Sat Nov 14 22:57:04 2009
From: eugene at raptor.kiev.ua (Eugene Paskevich)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:57:04 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] Qt4 mutiline editor vs XKB glitch
Message-ID: <op.u3epiog12m4sxy@kite.raptor.kiev.ua>

Hi!

Let me start with introducing my XKB symbols file, it's very simple.
---------------------------------------------
partial modifier_keys
xkb_symbols "us" {
     include "us(basic)"
     include "compose(ralt)"
     include "altwin(meta_win)"

     key <RCTL> { [ LockGroup(group=2) ] };
     key <RALT> { [ LockGroup(group=3) ] };
};

partial modifier_keys
xkb_symbols "ru" {
     include "ru(winkeys)"

     key <RCTL> { [ LockGroup(group=1) ] };
     key <RALT> { [ LockGroup(group=1) ] };
};

partial alphanumeric_keys modifier_keys
xkb_symbols "ua" {
     include "ua(winkeys)"

     key <AE05> { [ 5,      apostrophe ]	};

     key <BKSL> { [ backslash,   slash ] };
     key <TLDE> { [ Ukrainian_ghe_with_upturn, Ukrainian_GHE_WITH_UPTURN ]  
};

     key <RCTL> { [ LockGroup(group=1) ] };
     key <RALT> { [ LockGroup(group=1) ] };
};
---------------------------------------------

Now let's imagine that I'm the multiline editor (or in mail editor since  
they are essentially the same and have the same glitch) and cursor is  
positioned in the middle of the typed line. Now I switch from US keyboard  
layout to either RU or UA. So far, so good. Then I switch back to US. And  
this very moment the part of the line from cursor up to the end of line  
disappears. Well, I can press Ctrl-Z to restore the deleted part, but  
that's really annoying.

Did anybody else see what I'm talking about?

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From landronimirc at gmail.com  Sat Nov 14 23:20:05 2009
From: landronimirc at gmail.com (Liviu Andronic)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:20:05 -0000
Subject: [Opera-Linux] qt4 build freezes and 100% CPU
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On 11/14/09, Kenneth Crudup <kenny at panix.com> wrote:
>  > Add these lines (changing your UID from "kenny", of course):
>  > *             hard    nofile          8192
>  > kenny         soft    nofile          6144
> Oh, and you'll have to log out (or even reboot) for them to take effect.
>
Hmm. This didn't quite help, even after reboot. So I went the RC way,
and so far so good. The build no longer quite emulates GTK+, but I
could live with that.
Thanks all for the suggestions
Liviu