[Opera-Linux] latest flashplayer not working in 9.26

[Patricia Aas]

Hi all,

we do feel bad that the current stable Opera and the current release of  
the FlashPlayer are not compatible, but we have spent considerable  
resources to set up a Firefox environment so that the player is happy. We  
have had a lot of contact with Adobe over this, but they decided to depend  
on Gtk+ and to not support non Gtk+ browsers. This resulted in us  
rewriting most of the plugin code for unix and this work is available in  
9.50 snapshot builds :

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2008/02/22/plugin-milestone-build-part-ii

but this is a considerable change and is not mature for a stable version  
yet, and would require a lot of resources to backport (resources that can  
be used to make the work even better for Kestrel/9.5).

We do appreciate feedback on this work, and this is your opportunity to  
make the next Opera version as good as it can get :)

Patricia

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:51:16 +0100, Angus Auld <if6was9 at operamail.com>  
wrote:

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: klort at hydrophilus.com
>> To: opera-linux at opera.com
>> Subject: Re: [Opera-Linux] latest flashplayer not working in 9.26
>> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:26:47 -0800
>>
>>
>> Klonk Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:16:22 +0100 veschprigt mroktar "Claudio
>> Santambrogio" <csant at opera.com> [re: Re: [Opera-Linux] latest
>> flashplayer not working in 9.26]:
>>
>> > The latest Flash player does not run in anything but
>> > Firefox/Mozilla,  since it assumes that all browsers are GTK
>> > applications.  That of
>> > curse will not work for both Opera and Konqueror, which are Qt
>> > applications.  See
>> >  
>> 	http://my.opera.com/csant/blog/2007/12/04/linux-opera-flash-and-plugins
>> > We have managed to solve this in the 9.5 development snapshots,
>> > but  unfortunately a backport to 9.2x releases is not possible.
>>
>> To clarify the tone of this post - I *love* Opera and have been
>> using it since I discovered it around version 2.x, back when I
>> still ran Windars. I've come to accept the FP crash bug as a sort
>> of Dwight-Schrute-esque companion in my workspace - not enough to
>> make me quit, but definitely terribly annoying.
>>
>> - - -
>>
>> This has been an issue for LONG since before Opera 9.x / FP
>> current. I think it is inaccurate to blame it on the 'lastest Flash
>> player' not running on 'anything but Firefox/Mozilla'. It may be
>> that current FP doesn't work in current Opera, but let's not forget
>> that operapluginwrapper is CRASH-A-DELIC using many versions of
>> both Opera AND FP [Opera 8.x, 9.x; FP back to 7.x].
>>
>> The issue of operapluginwrapper crashing all open instances of FP
>> with the unload of any single instance, as I said in a previous
>> post, has been an issue for /years/ of versions of both Opera and
>> FP, and across multiple linux platforms/installations; from
>> Slackware to Mandrake/iva to Ubuntu.
>>
>> For almost as long, there has been the issue of Opera crashing and
>> completely locking, and pegging the CPU untill a kill signal's
>> received. This is such a regularly occurring bug that we keep track
>> the number of times Opera pegs CPU to 100% and takes a killall.
>> It's become /comedy/ in my office amongst co-workers. My LOWEST
>> daily record is one. It relates to 'right clicking too fast when
>> Opera's not ready for it' - that's as far as we can track it down -
>> so while it's /regular/ and /reproducible/, it's not quite /on
>> cue/....
>>
>> It would be, like, totally groovy if these ancient bugs were finally  
>> smashed.
>>
>> --mp
>
> Indeed Opera has had a long-standing *issue* with flashplayer, but I  
> don't think
> Opera is alone in this regard. I've noted lockups using Iceweasel  
> (Firefox),
> that *seem* to be flash related as well.
> I don't use ms windows any more, so I can't comment on how well, or how
> poorly, flashplayer works there, but I'm wondering if this is maybe a  
> flash vs
> linux thing.
> A lot of websites are very flash-intensive these days, so this is quite  
> annoying
> to say the least. I seem to have *adjusted* my browsing in a manner that  
> I just
> expect to have issues with flash and linux. Any flash videos I view seem  
> to
> consume more cpu cycles than one would expect, and this happens  
> regardless
> of browser choice.
> Perhaps my observations are not accurate, but they are my observations
> nonetheless. ;)
>
> I agree that a smooth flash experience would indeed be "totally groovy".  
> :)
>
> -- Angus
>
> "The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the  
> greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race, have had their  
> origin in this thing called religion."



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