[Opera-Linux] video playback using the mplayerplugin succesor "Gecko media player" is broken due to a bug in Opera

Tue May 29 12:50:29 UTC 2007

Hi Tomas :)

Now that I read all of it a bit better I see you were the one that  
reported the bug - sorry for the misunderstanding. It is currently under  
investigation - but it may take a bit of time - if we need further  
information then I assume we can contact you?

Patricia

On Tue, 29 May 2007 13:59:48 +0200, Tomáš Hnyk <tomashnyk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just to clarify how to confirm it:
> Just go to www.apple.com/trailers and try to watch a trailer you have
> never watched before. It will not work.
>
> As for the F5 issue, I misinformed a little. The viedos actually play  
> only
> (and not always) when you preview them in different browser. Therefore,
> fire up firefox, go to for example
> http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/ratatouille/trailerQTsmall.html and
> watch it. Then try it in Opera with Gecko media browser - it should work.
> However, it sometimes (more then less often, actually) does not, when I
> tried several other trailers: it probably has to do something with cache.
>
> Anyway, the main issue is this does not work if it probably could rather
> easily (since it sometimes works)
> Tomas Hnyk
>
> On Tue, 29 May 2007 12:49:36 +0200, Daniel Eckl <daniel.eckl at gmx.de>  
> wrote:
>
>> I understand it's difficult and specs might be unclear. Perhaps it's not
>> possible at all.
>>
>> It was just that Eiriks words below sounded as if he just was tired of
>> this plugin subject in general.
>>
>> Thank you very much for your nice words and your clarification.
>>
>> Best,
>> Daniel
>>
>> psmaas at opera.com schrieb:
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> we will investigate the issue that you have reported, we are  
>>> continously
>>> working on our plugin intergration, however it is often a land of
>>> under/un-specified behaviour and that is what Eirik is reffering to.
>>> Please continue to investigate and report plugin bugs on unix.
>>>
>>> Patricia
>>>
>>> On Tue, 29 May 2007 11:56:28 +0200, Daniel Eckl <daniel.eckl at gmx.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>> Tomáš Hnyk <tomashnyk at gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I recently discovered that a succesor to mplayerplugin that should
>>>>>> work with Opera is developed, namely the Gecko media player, the
>>>>>> homepage  being:
>>>>>> http://dekorte.homeip.net/download/gecko-mediaplayer/.
>>>>>> However, it, as of now, works not very well with Opera. Try to go to
>>>>>> apple.com/trailers and see for yourself - the trailer will not show,
>>>>>> only  after you hit F5 and sometimes even then it will just display  
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> black  rectangular window in place where the trailer should be.
>>>>>> The developer says it is due to a bug in Opera: "I've seen this
>>>>>> myself
>>>>>> it seems to be caused by a bug in Opera. It is not
>>>>>> sending the SetWindow event properly."
>>>>>> I filled a bug (266776) about it as well. And there is a related
>>>>>> thread on myopera forums:
>>>>>> http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=154160&t=1180306042.
>>>>>> However, could some please confirm this?
>>>>>> Tomas Hnyk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> There's way too much black magic in plug-in-land.  The whole plug-in
>>>>> specification is really broken when it comes to interoperability.   
>>>>> And
>>>>> nobody follows the spec anyway (which just makes it worse).
>>>>>
>>>>> eirik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Eirik!
>>>>
>>>> How can I read your writing? Is this a confirmation of the supposed  
>>>> bug
>>>> in opera? I assume so.
>>>>
>>>> So in other words you mean:
>>>> "Everyone writes buggy plugins, so we can legitimately write a buggy
>>>> plugin runner. Above that I cannot catch on with this stuff anymore,
>>>> because it's a mess."
>>>>
>>>> ???
>>>>
>>>> _In case I read your writing correct_: Sorry, but this saying is not
>>>> acceptable. If someone writes a buggy plugin: his fault. If opera
>>>> writes
>>>> a buggy implementation: Operas fault!
>>>> With your point of view you make the story go round and round. Soon a
>>>> plugin dev will say "Why should I write spec conform plugins? The
>>>> browser developers don't follow the spec anyway!"
>>>>
>>>> Please investigate this problem and if there is a bug in opera, please
>>>> confirm that in round terms and _if it's possible_, then please fix  
>>>> it,
>>>> so we can start shouting at the plugin developers instead.
>>>>
>>>> Mainly the missing or not good working media player plugins for opera
>>>> linux are a pain in the neck, so I really would like to see more
>>>> efforts
>>>> in trying to make them run better.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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