[Opera-Linux] video playback using the mplayerplugin succesor "Gecko media player" is broken due to a bug in Opera

[Tomáš Hnyk]

Just to clarify how to confirm it:
Just go to www.apple.com/trailers and try to watch a trailer you have  
never watched before. It will not work.

As for the F5 issue, I misinformed a little. The viedos actually play only  
(and not always) when you preview them in different browser. Therefore,  
fire up firefox, go to for example  
http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/ratatouille/trailerQTsmall.html and  
watch it. Then try it in Opera with Gecko media browser - it should work.  
However, it sometimes (more then less often, actually) does not, when I  
tried several other trailers: it probably has to do something with cache.

Anyway, the main issue is this does not work if it probably could rather  
easily (since it sometimes works)
Tomas Hnyk

On Tue, 29 May 2007 12:49:36 +0200, Daniel Eckl <daniel.eckl at gmx.de> wrote:

> I understand it's difficult and specs might be unclear. Perhaps it's not
> possible at all.
>
> It was just that Eiriks words below sounded as if he just was tired of
> this plugin subject in general.
>
> Thank you very much for your nice words and your clarification.
>
> Best,
> Daniel
>
> psmaas at opera.com schrieb:
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> we will investigate the issue that you have reported, we are continously
>> working on our plugin intergration, however it is often a land of
>> under/un-specified behaviour and that is what Eirik is reffering to.
>> Please continue to investigate and report plugin bugs on unix.
>>
>> Patricia
>>
>> On Tue, 29 May 2007 11:56:28 +0200, Daniel Eckl <daniel.eckl at gmx.de>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen schrieb:
>>>
>>>> Tomáš Hnyk <tomashnyk at gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I recently discovered that a succesor to mplayerplugin that should
>>>>> work with Opera is developed, namely the Gecko media player, the
>>>>> homepage  being:  
>>>>> http://dekorte.homeip.net/download/gecko-mediaplayer/.
>>>>> However, it, as of now, works not very well with Opera. Try to go to
>>>>> apple.com/trailers and see for yourself - the trailer will not show,
>>>>> only  after you hit F5 and sometimes even then it will just display a
>>>>> black  rectangular window in place where the trailer should be.
>>>>> The developer says it is due to a bug in Opera: "I've seen this  
>>>>> myself
>>>>> it seems to be caused by a bug in Opera. It is not
>>>>> sending the SetWindow event properly."
>>>>> I filled a bug (266776) about it as well. And there is a related
>>>>> thread on myopera forums:
>>>>> http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=154160&t=1180306042.
>>>>> However, could some please confirm this?
>>>>> Tomas Hnyk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> There's way too much black magic in plug-in-land.  The whole plug-in
>>>> specification is really broken when it comes to interoperability.  And
>>>> nobody follows the spec anyway (which just makes it worse).
>>>>
>>>> eirik
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Eirik!
>>>
>>> How can I read your writing? Is this a confirmation of the supposed bug
>>> in opera? I assume so.
>>>
>>> So in other words you mean:
>>> "Everyone writes buggy plugins, so we can legitimately write a buggy
>>> plugin runner. Above that I cannot catch on with this stuff anymore,
>>> because it's a mess."
>>>
>>> ???
>>>
>>> _In case I read your writing correct_: Sorry, but this saying is not
>>> acceptable. If someone writes a buggy plugin: his fault. If opera  
>>> writes
>>> a buggy implementation: Operas fault!
>>> With your point of view you make the story go round and round. Soon a
>>> plugin dev will say "Why should I write spec conform plugins? The
>>> browser developers don't follow the spec anyway!"
>>>
>>> Please investigate this problem and if there is a bug in opera, please
>>> confirm that in round terms and _if it's possible_, then please fix it,
>>> so we can start shouting at the plugin developers instead.
>>>
>>> Mainly the missing or not good working media player plugins for opera
>>> linux are a pain in the neck, so I really would like to see more  
>>> efforts
>>> in trying to make them run better.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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