[Opera-Linux] video playback using the mplayerplugin succesor "Gecko media player" is broken due to a bug in Opera

[psmaas at opera.com]

Hi Daniel,

we will investigate the issue that you have reported, we are continously  
working on our plugin intergration, however it is often a land of  
under/un-specified behaviour and that is what Eirik is reffering to.  
Please continue to investigate and report plugin bugs on unix.

Patricia

On Tue, 29 May 2007 11:56:28 +0200, Daniel Eckl <daniel.eckl at gmx.de> wrote:

> Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen schrieb:
>> Tomáš Hnyk <tomashnyk at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I recently discovered that a succesor to mplayerplugin that should
>>> work with Opera is developed, namely the Gecko media player, the
>>> homepage  being: http://dekorte.homeip.net/download/gecko-mediaplayer/.
>>> However, it, as of now, works not very well with Opera. Try to go to
>>> apple.com/trailers and see for yourself - the trailer will not show,
>>> only  after you hit F5 and sometimes even then it will just display a
>>> black  rectangular window in place where the trailer should be.
>>> The developer says it is due to a bug in Opera: "I've seen this myself
>>> it seems to be caused by a bug in Opera. It is not
>>> sending the SetWindow event properly."
>>> I filled a bug (266776) about it as well. And there is a related
>>> thread on myopera forums:
>>> http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=154160&t=1180306042.
>>> However, could some please confirm this?
>>> Tomas Hnyk
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There's way too much black magic in plug-in-land.  The whole plug-in
>> specification is really broken when it comes to interoperability.  And
>> nobody follows the spec anyway (which just makes it worse).
>>
>> eirik
>>
>
> Hi Eirik!
>
> How can I read your writing? Is this a confirmation of the supposed bug
> in opera? I assume so.
>
> So in other words you mean:
> "Everyone writes buggy plugins, so we can legitimately write a buggy
> plugin runner. Above that I cannot catch on with this stuff anymore,
> because it's a mess."
>
> ???
>
> _In case I read your writing correct_: Sorry, but this saying is not
> acceptable. If someone writes a buggy plugin: his fault. If opera writes
> a buggy implementation: Operas fault!
> With your point of view you make the story go round and round. Soon a
> plugin dev will say "Why should I write spec conform plugins? The
> browser developers don't follow the spec anyway!"
>
> Please investigate this problem and if there is a bug in opera, please
> confirm that in round terms and _if it's possible_, then please fix it,
> so we can start shouting at the plugin developers instead.
>
> Mainly the missing or not good working media player plugins for opera
> linux are a pain in the neck, so I really would like to see more efforts
> in trying to make them run better.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best,
> Daniel
>
>
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